This was originally going to be titled “why Nietzsche was wrong”, but then I lost confidence in myself
Really, I’m just thinking this through – so if it makes no sense, or you just think I’m barmy, feel free to let me know!
In various forms of MMA or martial arts training, as with army boot camps, there seems to be a school of thought that putting people through stressful, painful, humiliating or just generally nasty experiences will necessarily make them stronger, better fighters or be somehow “character building”. Does it?
The evidence, both scientific and otherwise, is pretty mixed. Repeated or ongoing painful experiences can have two different results – tolerance or sensitization. If you give someone enough electric shocks under certain conditions, you may increase their pain threshold (at least for that particular kind of pain). Vary the circumstances slightly though, and you end up making them more sensitive rather than less. Change the conditions again, and voila, you have learned helplessness. In other words, if you beat someone up repeatedly while he’s learning to box, you may just toughen him up, or you may make him glove shy.
So what makes the difference? Is it something innate that depends on character of the person in question? Is it true that there are two kinds of people and (to quote an annoying cliche) “whether life grinds you down or polishes you depends on what you are made of”? Or is there more to it than that?
I’ve been pondering this one for some time, and then recently made a connection. Time for a brief digression. I was recently revisiting some material by physical therapist and athletic trainer Grey Cook. He was talking about why you shouldn’t try to build strength on top of dysfunctional movement patterns. Roughly speaking that means that if your body is out of balance and isn’t moving the way it should be, then stressing it by shifting big weights without first addressing the problem will only make things worse.
It occurred to me that this is probably true of psychological stress too. There’s no point stressing a “dysfunctional” psychological pattern. If someone has good coping strategies in place for the kind of stress they’re under, then yes – it can make them stronger. It’s the mental equivalent of having good movement patterns and good technique when you’re lifting weights. On the other hand, if the way they’re processing that particular stress is “dysfunctional” in some way, then at best it’s going to reinforce bad habits, and at worst be entirely counterproductive.
We probably all have some dysfunctional psychological/emotional patterns – but no doubt some of us have more than others. Some people cope really well with the stresses that the aforementioned neanderthal training regime might throw at them. Others don’t. Perhaps sometimes that doesn’t matter – you just throw out the people who can’t deal with it and toughen up the rest.
I’m never that impressed, though, with any training program which only benefits people who are naturally above average already. That just screams “poor coaching” to me.
In physical terms, what you need to do with someone with a faulty movement pattern is to remove the stress, work out what’s going wrong and find a way to correct it. Then you can load that person back up and have them shifting more weight than they would have been able to before. I reckon this analogy carries over perfectly to dealing with psychological stress – it’s not so much the stress that makes you stronger, it’s how you deal with it. If someone has the mental equivalent of good technique, then you can overload them to a degree and they’ll benefit from it. Teaching those improved strategies can be the role of a sports psychologist, but it also relies on a coach to understand how, when and what kind of stressors to use, when to back off and when to increase the load.
Or you could just toughen up, stop whining and throw some more weight on the bar… come on, do you wanna be a f****** fighter or not?
Do you have any theories about why training based on just demanding more effort is so popular?
Great post! Very interesting stuff.
(Sorry, I don’t have anything useful to add – just wanted to say that.)
“come on, do you wanna be a f****** fighter?”
I know you’ve been practicing that at home in the mirror
Awesome thought provoking article
From a coaching perspective i get much more pleasure from getting some one from below average and timid, to average and confident, than i do from average and confident to excellent.
Maybe because its challenging, or maybe because their progression is so great, or maybe because you help people exceed their aspirations rather than help them reach them.
It might have something something to do with my A level applied maths teacher… but thats another story….
I had a coach once who believed the only way to make us better was beat the crap out of us and put us through ridiculous “warm-ups” before training (it was not unheard of for us to be made to do 1000 squats – not a typo that is ONE THOUSAND).
I actually kind of hate him now, cos he took loads of money off me and i learned pretty much nothing from him. I realise now he was just a bad coach but at the time thought i was getting toughened up.
Unfortunately though, quite often you need to find a good coach before you realise what a bad coach is!!
A really interesting post!
For some reason, that just screamed my first semester in grad school…lol.
To paraphrase the words of my partner (also a MA instructor):
Every martial arts instructor should read this article.
Thanks for making this insightful post. I read it some time ago, but it recently became very relevant when I started training muay thai after a long period absent from sports and ended up with a tibial stress fracture within two weeks. If the Nietzschean crucible mantra of my coach hadn’t dovetailed so well with my budding enthusiasm for the art, and more attention had been paid to my actual fitness level, I might not have gotten hurt almost as soon as I started training in the sport. Instead I willingly pushed myself far beyond my physical limits, and here we are. However just knowing that top-tier fighters are actively thinking about this sort of thing helps me to deal with the three-month hiatus from all sporting activities that I’m facing.
There are a lot of scholarly articles out there about sports and learned helplessness. If anyone is interested, let me know and I’ll post some links.
PS: This earlier comment is very very true.
>>quite often you need to find a good coach before you realise what a bad coach is!!
Thanks for the feedback! I’m sorry to hear about your experience, and yes, I’d be very interested to see the links you mention.
Some of these are just citations, but if you have university access to online databases of medical journals, you should be able to find full text online for most of them.
Thomas, Greg. “Learned helplessness and basketball playoff performance.” Journal of Sport Behavior. 19:4 (Dec 1996): 347-354.
Full text: http://www.articlearchives.com/sports-recreation/amateur-sports/1488005-1.html
Yasunaga, Madoka, and Kimihiro Inomata. “Factors associated with helplessness among Japanese collegiate swimmers.” Perceptual and Motor Skills. 99.2 (Oct 2004): 581(10)
Gernigon, Christophe, Edgar Thill, and Philippe Fleurance. “Learned helplessness: A survey of cognitive, motivational and perceptual-motor consequences in motor tasks.” Journal of Sports Sciences, 17:5 (May 1999):403-412.
Prapavessis, H., and A.V. Carron. “Learned Helplessness in Sport.” The Sport Psychologist, 2:3 (1988): 189-201.
Slightly off topic, but still interesting:
Weiller, Karen H., and Catriona T. Higgs. “Female Learned Helplessness in Sport. An Analysis of Children’s Literature.” Journal of Physical Education, Recreation and Dance, v60 n6 p65-67 Aug 1989
Boggiano, Ann K., and Phyllis Katz. “Maladaptive achievement patterns in students: the role of teachers’ controlling strategies.” Journal of Social Issues. 47.n4 (Winter 1991): 35(17).
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Susan
I am so glad you wrote this piece. Someone who has achieved as much respect as you have in the sport is uniquely positioned to change the prevailing mentality.
I wanted to address the fine line you spoke of between stressing the “patient” and breaking him/her down.
It seems to me that one could look to disciplines that genuinely build resilient individuals. (In a word, that does seem to be what you’re looking for here: resilience.)
Resilience is sometimes defined thus: “The property of a material that enables it to resume its original shape or position after being bent, stretched, or compressed; elasticity.”
That implies that returning to an original shape is the goal. To me, this implies that you have to know what your shape is (what your limits are), and how to channel stress (physical, psychological, etc.) into appropriate, non-destructive channels; ideally, into channels that eventually reinforce and strengthen the existing individual.
There are disciplines that consciously focus on processing this stress. I am thinking of yoga, but I’m sure there are others.
There are just some things that are best learned/internalized quietly. In yoga, meditation, balance, flexibility, focus, and body awareness can be learned with nary a bruise. I sometimes think that martial artists are truly missing out to pass on it as a “soft” option.
But the real point, as I see it, is that there are very important things to be learned that have nothing to do with cardio, weight training, or getting one’s block knocked off. But they sure help when one is *getting* one’s block knocked off.